Episode #88: There's a Daycare Inside This Career College. That's the Point…with Mina Tadrous
Most people think of a career college as a stepping stone. Mina Tadrous, Director of Campus Operations and Student Affairs at the Ontario Institute of Health and Innovation (OHII) in Toronto, sees it differently — he sees it as a turning point.
Mina is a career college graduate himself. He completed a paralegal program at Herzing College during a difficult stretch of his own life, went on to practise as a paralegal, and eventually found his way back to the sector as an employee — spending 12 years helping students do exactly what the college once did for him. In this episode of the EdUp Canada Podcast, host Michael Sangster sits with Mina inside the OHII campus to talk about what that career-changing impact actually looks like in practice.
They cover the college's newly accredited Early Childhood Educator program — one of only a handful in Ontario — and the deliberate investment in a hands-on lab built to industry standard. They talk about the 150 employer partners OHII has built relationships with, what it takes to make a placement turn into a same-day job offer, and why industry is increasingly turning to career colleges to find work-ready graduates. And they have an honest conversation about the challenges facing the sector: regulatory instability, lack of consultation, and the difficulty of planning for the long term when policy can shift week to week.
If you want to understand what's actually happening inside Canada's career college sector right now — from the student experience to the employer relationships to the regulatory pressures — this is the episode.
Episode #87: Can Canada Deliver? Women, Leadership, and the Systems Behind the Build with Emily Feairs and Frédérique Tsai-Klassen
Canada is in the middle of what its Prime Minister calls a "hinge moment" — a decade of building that demands billions in federal investment across construction, defense, energy, and housing. There's just one problem: every one of those sectors is operating with a fraction of its available talent. Only 5% of women work on construction sites. Only 4% serve in the army. And despite decades of initiatives designed to attract and retain women in skilled trades and strategic sectors, the numbers aren't moving.
In this episode of the EdUp Canada Podcast, host Michael Sangster sits down with Frédérique Tsai-Klassen and Emily Feairs — co-founders of The Power Shift — to ask a harder question than most: what if the system itself is the problem? Drawing on their widely-read Hill Times op-ed on Canada's trade strategy and the grassroots convenings drawing hundreds of women from across government, industry, academia, and the forces, Frédérique and Emily make a compelling case that training more women isn't the answer — rebuilding the institutions those women are walking away from is.
Expect an honest, evidence-grounded conversation about structural barriers, what it actually takes to retain skilled talent, what sectors and countries are getting it right, and what Canada's window of opportunity looks like right now.
Episode #86: "AI Can't Cut Hair: Human Connection and the Trades That Will Always Matter" with Cheryl Harrison
What happens when a 35-year career in beauty education meets a country that still doesn't fully understand what skilled trades look like? Cheryl Harrison, Chief Operating Officer and Vice President of MC College, has spent over three decades answering that question — one student at a time.
In this episode of the EdUp Canada Podcast, host Michael Sangster sits down with Cheryl for a wide-ranging conversation about the real scope of skilled trades in Canada, the private investment that builds world-class campuses without government funding, and the quiet crisis hiding in plain sight: a generation of young Canadians who have never learned to talk to a stranger.
Cheryl shares the story of a Fort McMurray student told she wasn't smart enough — who crossed a graduation stage with a pair of shears from her father. She unpacks the four-year battle to change a student aid policy that held back career college students in Alberta. And she shares the single question her mentor gave her decades ago that she still uses to navigate the hardest situations in leadership: "Do you want to be right, or do you want to be effective?"
This is a conversation about what career college education actually delivers — and why it matters more than most Canadians realize.
Episode #85: "It's Going to Happen to All of Us": Why Palliative Care Training Can't Wait with Tiara Sisson
What happens when Canada doesn't have enough trained workers to care for its aging population — and what role do career colleges play in closing that gap? In this episode of the EdUp Canada podcast, host Michael Sangster sits down with Tiara Sisson, President of Life and Death Matters, an organization that has partnered with career colleges across Canada for over 15 years to train personal support workers, healthcare aides, and continuing care professionals in palliative care.
Tiara brings a remarkable personal history — from special education to legal work to directing administration at one of North America's largest correctional facilities — all leading to her current mission: ensuring that the men and women entering Canada's long-term care and hospice sector leave their training not just with technical competence, but with the emotional intelligence, resilience, and palliative approach that defines truly excellent care.
This is a conversation about the value of skills-based training, the very real funding pressures facing Canada's career college sector, and why the stakes have never been higher for getting palliative care education right.
Episode #84: "Only 3% of Canadians Study Abroad — Here's What It Costs Us” with Larissa Bezo
What happens when the country with one of the world's strongest education brands spends two years changing the rules — 16, 17, 18 times? You get instability. Perception damage. And students looking elsewhere.
In this episode, Michael Sangster sits down with Larissa Bezo, President & CEO of the Canadian Bureau for International Education (CBIE), for a candid, wide-ranging conversation about the state of Canada's education system — where it broke, what it's costing us, and what it will take to rebuild.
Larissa doesn't pull punches. She explains why Canada's next decade must be defined by trust rather than growth, reveals that a startling 3% of Canadian post-secondary students study abroad (compared to far higher rates in Europe), and makes the case that every part of Canada's education ecosystem — from career colleges training personal support workers to research-intensive universities — has a unique and vital role to play.
She also shares the story of the mentor who helped build Medicare under Tommy Douglas, and how his belief in thinking decades ahead rather than in election cycles shaped her own approach to public service.
Episode #83: "250 Students in One Year: Filling Canada’s Mental Health Skills Gap with Dylan Matter” with Dylan Matter
What does it actually take to change a family’s trajectory? In this episode of EdUp Canada, host Michael Sangster sits down with Dylan Matter, Chief Operating Officer of Cambria College in British Columbia — a leader with 18 years in the career college sector who has quietly become one of its most respected voices.
Dylan opens up about his unlikely entry into education (hint: it started behind a coffee bar), what it means to watch a first-generation graduate walk across a stage surrounded by 15 proud family members, and how Cambria trained 250 mental health support workers in a single year — not because the government asked, but because the community needed it.
Together, Dylan and Michael dig into the layers of regulation most people never see, why the location of a career college in a strip mall or above a restaurant is a deliberate strategy — not a compromise — and what it really means when a school’s survival depends entirely on whether its graduates find jobs. This is an honest, grounded conversation about what skills training looks like from the inside.
Episode #82: "The College Where Volunteering Pays the Tuition” with Tim Ogilvie
What happens when the healthcare system is so desperate for trained workers that employers are sponsoring students before they've even been accepted into a program? That's just one of the realities Tim Ogilvie — VP and Dean of MCG Career College and Chair of the Alberta Association of Career Colleges — unpacks in this conversation.
Tim grew up in rural Nova Scotia, the son of a factory worker, and found his footing through a small private career college. That experience never left him — and it's driven a career built on fighting for students who need fast, flexible, affordable pathways into the workforce. From healthcare programs with $25,000 signing bonuses to a college that lets students pay 100% of their tuition through community volunteering, Tim makes the case — with data and hard-won stories — that career colleges aren't an alternative path. They're often the best one.
Episode #81: "Most Working Actors Trained at a Career College" with Michael Coleman
What does it actually take to build a lasting career in one of Canada's most dynamic industries — film and television? Michael Coleman, President and CEO of Vancouver's Story Institute, has spent over 35 years answering that question from every angle: as a working actor, a prolific writer, a voice artist, and now as the founder of a provincially regulated career college that does one thing exceptionally well.
In this episode, Michael pulls back the curtain on what makes career college training fundamentally different from a traditional academic path — and why that difference matters for students, for the industry, and for the broader Canadian economy. From a student who landed a role in a Christoph Waltz feature, to a graduate who became a fan favourite on a globally streamed series, Michael's stories illuminate what happens when practical training meets real industry opportunity.
Whether you're weighing your options for skills training, leading an institution, or thinking about how career colleges contribute to local economies, this conversation will shift the way you think about what education can look like.
Episode #80: Alex Usher on Post-Secondary Squeeze, Student Debt, and the Future of International Education
What does Canada's post-secondary system actually deliver — and for whom? In this candid, wide-ranging conversation, Michael Sangster sits down with Alex Usher, one of Canada's most respected higher education analysts and president of Higher Education Strategy Associates (HESA), to take an honest look at the pressures reshaping post-secondary education in Canada.
Usher pulls no punches: university systems are more financially fragile than colleges, student debt is set for a sharp rebound, and Canada may be sleep-walking into a workforce crisis driven by demographic decline and misguided immigration policy. But there's optimism here too — for the institutions nimble enough to move fast, build strong outcomes, and demonstrate clear value for students and society.
This episode weaves through student debt trends, OSAP reform, the international student caps, global talent flows, career college perceptions, and the remarkable resilience of skills-first education — all filtered through Usher's signature blend of data rigour and straight talk. Whether you're setting education policy, leading a career college, or deciding where to invest your tuition dollars, this conversation gives you the unvarnished picture.
Episode #79: No ECE Shortage, No Waitlists: What One Province Got Right with Cindy Lidster
Canada's healthcare workforce isn't just stretched — it's cracking. And the institutions best positioned to fix it are being overlooked, undersupported, and in some cases, actively undercut by operators running so-called "colleges" that are little more than nursing homes with a logo.
In this episode of the EdUp Canada podcast, host Michael Sangster sits down with Cindy Lidster — a former nursing professor at the University of New Brunswick turned career college founder and president of the New Brunswick Association of Private Colleges and Universities. Cindy saw two things coming in 2014 that nobody wanted to believe: that the future of frontline nursing would be delivered primarily by personal support workers and healthcare aides, and that the future of education delivery was going online. She built her college around both predictions before most institutions had even started the conversation. When the pandemic hit, she was ready.
In this episode, you'll hear what it actually looks like to run a high-standards career college in a province that's quietly building one of the most collaborative relationships between private colleges and government in the country. You'll hear about two women in their early twenties who gave up their home in Scarborough, quit their jobs, and moved to New Brunswick — all to enroll in a PSW program they hoped would lead to permanent residency and a career in care. Their placement partners want to hire them full-time. Cindy is quietly waiting to see how it ends.
You'll also hear about a sector working hard to clean its own house: the site visits that revealed "colleges" operating out of care homes, the association standards being built to mean something beyond a government checkbox, and the LPN training waitlists that are already so long Cindy is drafting a proposal for a third provider in the province.
If you've ever wondered whether skills-based training can genuinely change someone's life — or what it looks like when a province actually gets career college policy right — this episode is a masterclass.
Episode 78: 3,000 Jobs, No Graduates: Career Colleges and Canada's Dental Crisis with Cheryl Russell-Julien & Tara Fitzpatrick
Canada is in the middle of a dental assisting crisis — and most people have no idea. In this special Dental Assistants Recognition Week edition of the EdUp Canada podcast, host Michael Sangster sits down with two of the sector's most respected voices: Cheryl Russell-Julien, Director of Academics and Quality Assurance at a regulated career college and a leader within NACC member institutions, and Tara Fitzpatrick, CEO of the Ontario Dental Assistants Association (ODAA).
Together, they unpack what it actually takes to become a dental assistant through a career college, why over 3,000 dental assistant positions sit vacant in Ontario alone, and why recent changes to federal and provincial training grant funding could make things dramatically worse. You'll hear real stories from the chair — from a dentist in Cornwall who couldn't open his office for three days because his assistant was sick, to students who walked out of career college programs feeling genuinely prepared, career-ready, and connected to a profession for life.
If you've ever wondered whether a short, focused training program can truly launch a meaningful career — or what happens when healthcare workforce pipelines start to crack — this episode is your answer.
Episode 77: Dental Assistant Recognition Week: Natalie Marsh on Demand, Training, and the Future of Canada’s Oral Health Workforce
On the EdUp Canada podcast, host Michael Sangster speaks with Natalie Marsh, President of the Canadian Dental Assistants Association, to mark Dental Assistant Recognition Week and discuss the essential role dental assistants play in Canada’s oral healthcare system amid growing attention on dental care and the CDCP. Marsh describes significant demand across provinces, growing student interest with waitlists, and persistent shortages tied to retention, fair wages, licensing costs, and maternity leaves and retirements. She explains the one-year, dentistry-focused training pathway, national licensing exam, and province-by-province differences in scope of practice that complicate mobility and drive the need for greater standardization. Marsh shares why the work is rewarding—especially helping patients regain smiles with dentures—highlights posture and adaptability as key skills, and emphasizes advocacy to make dental assisting better understood as a regulated healthcare profession.
Episode #76: Breaking Profession Prejudice: The Real Value of Skills Training with MP Garnett Genuis
MP Garnett Genuis, Conservative Shadow Minister for Employment, joins host Michael Sangster to tackle Canada's youth unemployment crisis and reveal why career colleges are essential to closing the nation's skills gap. This conversation goes beyond politics to explore how training systems can—and must—evolve to meet labour market demands, the hidden costs of "profession prejudice," and why every job deserves dignity and respect.
5 Reasons You Should Listen
Discover the real drivers behind youth unemployment – Learn how immigration policy, training misalignment, and economic factors create barriers for young workers, plus specific policy solutions being proposed to address these systemic issues.
Understand the 80% employment success rate – Hear about groundbreaking research showing career college graduates find work directly related to their training at rates traditional universities can't match, revealing what makes skills-focused education so effective.
Learn about policy changes affecting student aid – Get the inside story on Budget 2024's proposal to eliminate student grants for private institutions and why this could hurt the very programs training workers in high-demand fields like nursing and healthcare.
Explore how to match training with real job opportunities – Gain insights into the geography gaps, skills mismatches, and credential recognition challenges preventing qualified workers from filling available positions across Canada.
Rethink what makes a "good" career – Challenge assumptions about university versus trades through powerful stories about personal support workers, skilled tradespeople, and the philosophy that all work—when done with creativity and passion—deserves equal respect.
Episode #75: 30% Hired Before Graduation: The Career College Advantage That's Changing Canadian Lives with Nik Nanos
Join host Michael Sangster for a deep dive into groundbreaking research with one of Canada's most respected pollsters, Nik Nanos (Order of Canada, Chancellor of Carleton University). Fresh data from nearly 3,000 career college graduates reveals stunning employment outcomes and the urgent financial realities facing students who are reshaping their careers.
Key Findings:
30% of graduates hired BEFORE finishing their program
Over 80% employed in their field of study
60% find work within 90 days
75% of students working while studying
40% are parents balancing education and family
This isn't your typical education conversation. It's about agility, resilience, and how Canada's career colleges are meeting the workforce exactly where it needs to be.
Episode #74: What does Canada need to be a leader in the world in AI? With Taleeb Noormohamed, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Artificial Intelligence and Digital Innovation in Canada
In this episode of the EdUp Canada podcast, host Michael Sangster engages in a detailed conversation with Taleeb Noormohamed, Parliamentary Secretary and Federal Government MP from British Columbia, recorded live on Parliament Hill. They discuss a wide range of topics including Noormohamed's unconventional career trajectory, his experiences in the tech and political sectors, and his work during significant events like the 2010 Olympics and various crises in British Columbia. The conversation highlights the importance of upskilling, lifelong learning, and the role of various educational institutions in workforce development. They also address current government efforts in AI, digital innovation, and immigration policies aimed at attracting skilled workers to Canada.
Episode #73: Adapting AI for Modern Career Education with Mujo Learning Systems with Dave Shaw
In this episode of the EdUp Canada podcast, host Michael Sangster speaks with Dave Shaw, Production Manager at Mujo Learning Systems. They discuss the importance of experimenting with new technologies, particularly in the field of education. Dave shares insights into how Mujo provides up-to-date, practical curriculum packages for career colleges, focusing on rapidly changing fields like digital marketing and artificial intelligence. The conversation also covers the development of courses tailored to current industry practices, the importance of adaptability, and the benefits of asynchronous learning models.
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Episode #72: What is King’s Trust Canada getting right about investing in young people with Jeffrey Orridge
In this episode of the EdUp Canada podcast, host Michael Sangster interviews Jeffrey Orridge, former CFL commissioner and new head of the King's Trust Canada. They discuss the mission of King's Trust, focusing on empowering youth facing barriers through skills development and workforce readiness. Orridge outlines the organization's programs, which include mentorship, networking events, and an online skills academy. They also touch upon Orridge's diverse career path from law to marketing and his experiences with influential mentors. The episode underscores the importance of soft skills, critical thinking, and adaptability in achieving career success.
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Episode #71: "Focus on just giving the right information." What Admissions Needs to Do to Ensure Optimal Student Fit with Sterling Simpson
In this episode of the EdUp Canada podcast, host Michael Sangster is joined by Sterling Simpson, Vice President of Business Development at Enrollment Resources. They discuss the crucial role of regulated career colleges in helping students find the right educational paths and the impactful work these institutions are doing to improve lives. Sterling shares his unique journey from a career in digital marketing to his current role, where he uses his expertise to enhance student experiences and outcomes within the career college sector. They also highlight the importance of quality education, employer partnerships, and the high level of regulation these colleges adhere to, ensuring successful career transitions for students.
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Episode #70: "From Crisis to Opportunity: A Journey Through Canada’s Construction Industry”
In this episode of the EdUp Canada podcast, host Michael Sangster is joined by Rod Gilbert, President of the Canadian Construction Association, to discuss the vital need for skilled workers across various sectors, particularly in construction. The conversation delves into the essential role of training and continuous learning in building a successful career and supporting national infrastructure. Rod highlights the significant challenges and opportunities within the industry, the importance of collaboration between educational institutions, industry, and government, and the critical need for strategic immigration and public policy alignment. Additionally, the discussion touches on the impact of tariffs, the need for comprehensive infrastructure planning, and the role of mentoring in professional growth.
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Episode #69: "5 Strategies to Enhance Student Recruitment for Career Colleges with Philippe Taza of Higher Education Marketing”
In this episode of the Edup Canada podcast, host Michael Sangster welcomes Philippe Taza, CEO of Higher Education Marketing (HEM). They discuss the crucial role that external vendors like HEM play in connecting students to the right educational programs. Philippe shares insights on the evolution of digital marketing and attribution, illustrating how complex and multifaceted student recruitment has become. The conversation also touches on the importance of mentorship in career colleges and how impactful moments can shape careers. Philippe emphasizes the significance of continuous learning and adaptation, particularly with the rise of AI technologies like ChatGPT. This episode encapsulates the mission of Edup Canada: exploring how training and skills can lead to lasting career success.
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